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Xavier Rimrocker



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PostSubject: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Wed Nov 17, 2010 10:46 pm

The tournament runs from November 25-28 at St. Matthew, LB Pearson, and St. Peter. Semi-finals and finals are at St. Matthew on Nov 28.

All teams from the Ottawa area unless otherwise indicated.

SENIOR

Group A
Deslauriers
Garneau
St. Matthew
T.B.A.

Group B
Hillcrest
Louis Riel
Mother Teresa
St. Peter

Group C
LB Pearson
Nicolas-Gatineau
St. Pat's
St. Paul

Group D
Ashbury
Ridgemont
Sacred Heart
SW Laurier

Semi-Finals: A1 vs. B1, C1 vs. D1

JUNIOR

Group A
Ashbury
Cardinal Newman (Not sure if it's the one in Toronto or Hamilton)
Ridgemont
St. Matthew
SW Laurier

Group B
Hillcrest
Holy Cross (Kingston)
Mother Teresa
St. Pat's
St. Peter

Semi-Finals: A1 vs. B2, B1 vs. A2

PREVIOUS CHAMPIONS

Senior
2009: Sacred Heart
2008: St. Matthew
2007: St. Pat's
2006: St. Francis Xavier
2005: St. Francis Xavier
2004: St. Matthew

Junior
2009: St. Peter
2008: St. Matthew
2007: Immaculata
2006: St. Francis Xavier
2005: St. Pat's
2004: St. Matthew


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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:44 pm

Unfortunately, Xavier has been forced to withdraw and has been replaced by a local team. I'm not sure which one at this time.
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:41 pm

I don't know enough about the junior teams to make predictions but my senior predictions are:

Group A: St. Matthew
Group B: St. Peter
Group C: St. Pat's
Group D: Sacred Heart

Group B is the deepest group, IMO. Hillcrest and Louis Riel also have a shot of winning the group.

I'll take Sacred Heart over St. Matthew in the final.
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Sat Nov 20, 2010 6:55 pm

Group A
For the most part to myself you seem to be right. But this is just my opinion not to say you are wrong. I do feel St. Matthew will win group A. But we still don't know what team will be replacing St.Francis Xavier so its seems fair to say only Deslaurier might push St Matthew which doesnt seem likely becasue Deslaurier usually doesnt bring very solid teams like St Matthew's.
Group A Winner: St Matthew
Runner Up: Deslaurier

Group B
As said Group B seems to be the toughest group of the 4. This could be to an advantage to the winner or a problem. The winner of Group B could be tired once pllaying their group that they might not have enough energy. Or they could be very ready because they played championship contendors in all their first three games. Which is why I feel Hillcrest will win this group and then win the whole tournament. Louis Riel and St. Peter's are both two very talented teams which are for the most part are grade 11's. Mother Teresa seems to be the worst team in the group but probably be the second or third team in any of the other divisions.
Group B Winner: Hillcrest
Group B Runner Up: Louis Riel

Group C
St Patrick's seems to be the team to beat in this group due to most of last years team remaining on this team. Very young but a very talented bunch and know how to work to thier strengths. St Paul seem to be a contendor in AA and will be a tough team to take out. They will fall swinging and giving their best in all matches which is why I feel they will be the runner up
Group C Winner: St Patrick's
Group C Runner Up: St Paul

Group D
Sacred Heart will easily win this group in my opinion. Sacred Heart seems to be at another level compare to their teams in their division. Sacred Heart's toughest competion will probably come against Ashbury. Which is led by a one man team. Sacred Heart defensively seems to be great which is why I say they will win each game in the group by 10 or more. Sir Wilfred Laurier and Ridgemont will fight for 3rd place in the group.
Group D Winner: Sacred Heart
Group D Runner Up: Ashbury

Semi Finals: Hillcrest over St Matthews 60-52
Hillcrest's firepower will overcome the firepower of St Matthew. The game in my eyes will be tight for the most part but lets not forget that Hillcrest has the same team that they won the junior championship with two years ago minus 2 players.
Semi Finals : St Pats over Sacred Heart 54-50
St Patrick's achilles heel last year seemed to be Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart beat St. Pats three times last year which is a very hard thing to do. I think St. Pats will look to beat Sacred Heart and will be more dedicated due to the results of last years games they played. I think this will be the tightest game of the tournament.
Finals: Hillcrest over St Pats 48-43
Hillcrest against St. Pats wont be the matchup you will be looking forward to but in my eyes it seems to be unevitable. Hillcrest will overcome St Pats by playing star player against star player. Issack will defeat Mariel which is why they will win.
MVP: Issack



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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:33 am

Lebron123 wrote:

Group A: St. Matthew
Group B: St. Peter
Group C: St. Pat's
Group D: Sacred Heart

Group B is the deepest group, IMO. Hillcrest and Louis Riel also have a shot of winning the group.

I'll take Sacred Heart over St. Matthew in the final.
Group A
For the most part to myself you seem to be right. But this is just my opinion not to say you are wrong. I do feel St. Matthew will win group A. But we still don't know what team will be replacing St.Francis Xavier so its seems fair to say only Deslaurier might push St Matthew which doesnt seem likely becasue Deslaurier usually doesnt bring very solid teams like St Matthew's.
Group A Winner: St Matthew
Runner Up: Deslaurier

Group B
As said Group B seems to be the toughest group of the 4. This could be to an advantage to the winner or a problem. The winner of Group B could be tired once pllaying their group that they might not have enough energy. Or they could be very ready because they played championship contendors in all their first three games. Which is why I feel Hillcrest will win this group and then win the whole tournament. Louis Riel and St. Peter's are both two very talented teams which are for the most part are grade 11's. Mother Teresa seems to be the worst team in the group but probably be the second or third team in any of the other divisions.
Group B Winner: Hillcrest
Group B Runner Up: Louis Riel

Group C
St Patrick's seems to be the team to beat in this group due to most of last years team remaining on this team. Very young but a very talented bunch and know how to work to thier strengths. St Paul seem to be a contendor in AA and will be a tough team to take out. They will fall swinging and giving their best in all matches which is why I feel they will be the runner up
Group C Winner: St Patrick's
Group C Runner Up: St Paul

Group D
Sacred Heart will easily win this group in my opinion. Sacred Heart seems to be at another level compare to their teams in their division. Sacred Heart's toughest competion will probably come against Ashbury. Which is led by a one man team. Sacred Heart defensively seems to be great which is why I say they will win each game in the group by 10 or more. Sir Wilfred Laurier and Ridgemont will fight for 3rd place in the group.
Group D Winner: Sacred Heart
Group D Runner Up: Ashbury

Semi Finals: Hillcrest over St Matthews 60-52
Hillcrest's firepower will overcome the firepower of St Matthew. The game in my eyes will be tight for the most part but lets not forget that Hillcrest has the same team that they won the junior championship with two years ago minus 2 players.
Semi Finals : St Pats over Sacred Heart 54-50
St Patrick's achilles heel last year seemed to be Sacred Heart. Sacred Heart beat St. Pats three times last year which is a very hard thing to do. I think St. Pats will look to beat Sacred Heart and will be more dedicated due to the results of last years games they played. I think this will be the tightest game of the tournament.
Finals: Hillcrest over St Pats 48-43
Hillcrest against St. Pats wont be the matchup you will be looking forward to but in my eyes it seems to be unevitable. Hillcrest will overcome St Pats by playing star player against star player. Issack will defeat Mariel which is why they will win.
MVP: Issack

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I don't see how you can see Sacred Heart loosing to St. Pats. They return basically everyone from last year plus some good juniors coming up in Keegan and Emmanuel. St. Pats couldn't beat Sacred when they had the best defender in the city (Christian Kondo) guarding Sean, I don't think they can stop Sean now, or even Vik for a matter of fact, as St. Pats has no bigs. I agree with everything but Sacred loosing to St. Pats. I still have Hillcrest beating Sacred in the finals, as Hillcrest has always had Sacred's number in the past
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Sun Nov 21, 2010 12:00 pm

Do not over look Deslauriers. They just won the Cullen and have a nice mix of players that can play. Also, I have heard that St. Pats has a 6'7" transfer and that Mariel is over 6'5" now so to say that they have no size is quite misleading (if these rumours are true of course). Sacred Heart is the team to beat, no doubt. They have a solid starting 5 (not sure who their centre is but the other 4 will likely do most of their damage anyway). What is their bench like? I am picking Sacred Heart to win it. Other than their starting 5, they also have the easiest pool play which means that they will be able to rest their key guys in most of those games. St. Pats will likely win their pool, but they will have to earn their wins especially against St. Paul's and Gatineau (who always seems to be the class of the Quebec league). I am picking Deslauriers to win group A, but I would not be surprised to see St. Matts come out of the group. If the TBA team turns out to be a solid squad as well, then the winner will be exhausted when it comes to the semis and finals. By far, the toughest group to predict will be group C. Mother Theresa is likely the weakest team in the group and they will compete with all three teams. Their junior team was good last year and most of those guys are playing senior now. Right now I will take St. Petes to win this pool but would not be surprised to see Louis Riel or Hillcrest come out on top. I am picking St. Petes because of how solid they looked defensively in the Cullen and when you get top teams competing against each other, defense is usually the difference.

Assuming the semis are group a vs group b and group c vs group d, then my semis are Deslauriers vs St. Peters and St. Pats vs Sacred Heart. From that I will predict Deslauriers and Sacred Heart final with Sacred Heart winning the tournament. Deslauriers can shoot the three very well and if they move the ball against the various zones and traps that St. Petes will throw at them, then Deslauriers could get some good looks. The one thing that St. Pats will have over Sacred Heart is that this will be Sacred Heart's first tournament of the year and St. Pats has played in at least two (that I know of) already. Still, I don't know who on St. Pats can guard Stoqua and I think Vik will be able to contain Mariel thus the edge goes to SH. In the final I have SH winning mostly because I am not sure who off Deslauriers can defend Vik. Their bigs are decent players but Vik is elite at his position. They also give up a lot of easy looks from the perimeter and leave their feet a ton on the interior and these are things that SH will exploit. With all of this said, I would not be surprised if the final four were completely different (except for pool D) which makes this a very strong and interesting tournament. Should be some great basketball.
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Sun Nov 21, 2010 7:40 pm

Coach C you are correct that St Pat's has a transfer which is 6'7 and Mario does seem to be taller. But lets not forget that the team that St.Pats had last year was manly grade 9, 10, and 11's. Which means most of their players have returned as well minus Christian Kondo. Each player on the St.Pat's team has seem to have gotten bette rand from what I have heard there seems to be another transfer and he is quite tall as well. A little soft but a solid big. The team has competed in two tournaments from what i have heard and I wouldnt be suprised if they took the whole tourney. Not to bash on Sacred Heart but I still think they are a top contendor for the city championship. They are tough group and have a dynamic duo in Stoqua and Vik. Vik maybe the best big at his position but tends to play his worst games against other bigs that are strong and tall similar to him. If the rumour is true that there are two bigs that are new at St.Pats and there is still Mariel then they will have a prson to contend and defend Vik.
I was also wondering why Sir Robert Borden and Earl of March aren't competing in this tournament because this tournaments seems more competitive than the Cullen tournament. And has anybody seen All Saints in action they have a gret squad from what i saw two years ago and rom what i have heard from people around the area
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Mon Nov 22, 2010 10:51 am

SRB is out of town this weekend at a tournament in Kitchener and this is why we are not in the Bill Wren. We would love to participate but it always seems to be the same weekend as the Court Heinbuch in Kitchener which has been a fairly regular tournament for us. I know that Coach Wren runs a top notch tournament and the competition seems quite intense. Should be a great weekend of basketball.
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:20 pm

Who won dlr vs st-matts and Lr vs hillcrest. and witch team is replacing st-fx ?
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:30 pm

tooshort wrote:
Who won dlr vs st-matts and Lr vs hillcrest. and witch team is replacing st-fx ?

deslauriers won against st matts and L.R won against Hillcrest, the team that will be replacing st-fx is colonel by.
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:37 pm

Are they any good ?
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PostSubject: Re: Line-up for Bill Wren Tournament   Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:42 pm

Sacred defeated Ashbury by 30. Jean was held to under 10 points. Props to the SH defense...but not hard to do when Ashbury is a one man team.
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PostSubject: Thursday   Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:04 am

Two results from St.Peter's:

St. Peter's ran away late from Mother Teresa for a 20 point (or so) win.

St. Pat's beat Nicolas Gatineau on a buzzer beater.
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PostSubject: Friday and Saturday   Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:35 pm

Friday, St.Pat's beat Lester B Pearson in a spirited game at Pearson. Final was 68-64.

Saturday, St. Pat's beat St. Paul's 39-33 in what was not a spirited game.

Also Saturday, Sacred Heart toppled Ridgemont easily.
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PostSubject: Semis   Sat Nov 27, 2010 5:37 pm

Can someone post the matchups for the semis(juniors &Seniors) as it seems that pool play is over. Any upsets occur or is everything going as expected.
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